This is my entry for Mahud’s fifth synchroblog, on the subject of Mythical Monsters and Otherworldly Entities. Go to his site for a full list of participants!
Otherworldy beings are terrifying to many people. I remember being afraid of some of them too, when I was younger – not all of them, but there were wee things that went bump in the night that could frighten me. I haven’t encountered a truly frightening Otherworldly entity in a long time, though. I’m far more afraid of what beings from this world can do to me than I am of anything I might encountering traveling Over There. The fear I’m talking about isn’t the fear of truly frightening or malevolent monsters, though – it’s the fear of any contact with any nonordinary being. Some people, for some reason, are unreasonably frightened by this. I’ve seen otherwise reasonable people thrown into hysterics by utterly benign manifestations.
I’ve run across quite a few books that say that pathworking or astral travel or whatever the author calls it is terribly dangerous and should only be undertaken with elaborate safeguards and in the company of trusted guardians. I can understand an author wanting to cover the bases and attach warning labels of the “caution! contains peanuts!” type for those who have particular sensitivities, but there is often a broader implication that the very act of entering the Otherworld is fraught with peril. Monsters lurk around every corner, apparently.
I have Mam Adar to thank for recommending “The Forge of Tubal Cain,” by Ann Finnin. While the book is mostly concerned with describing the establishment and growth of a particular magical system, the Roebuck, the chapter on “the Magical Mindset” is of more general interest. Finnin has an explanation for this kind of thing that makes a lot of sense to me. She describes the experience of a child who has a natural tendency to see into the non-physical realms. Finnin writes, “Parental and societal pressure to find purely physical causes for fear, anger and love is tremendous and can cause much emotional and psychic trauma to children who are naturally aware of unseen realms. By the time these children grow into adults, they not only have repressed the sensory awareness of the unseen, but also the trauma.” She goes on to describe a scene where a child is terrified of the monster under the bed, and the mother dismisses the threat as unreal. In Finnin’s analysis, the fear is repressed and refocused onto something “real.” She uses this as an explanation of why people in magical circles can get so emotionally weird when the work gets intense.
I think this explains a lot about the kinds of fear I’m talking about (which is a little different than what Finnin is getting at). If you have been told since childhood that seeing the nonordinary is something worthy of punishment, then you’re going to get nervous if you see it. Especially, as Finnin also points out, since as a species we have a long history of attacking, ostracizing, and even killing those who have this kind of sight. If you’ve repressed all this, then its return can only be seen as a threat, and that threat gets transferred onto the one being seen. Since people tend to use their own internal fear as evidence of external danger, that could make seeing fairies (for instance) utterly terrifying. No wonder they see monsters.
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December 2, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Very interesting thought here. I suppose, on some level, this may explain my irrational concern with Mirror-gazing. It’s not that I actively dislike ME, it’s the acceptance of Otherness in Me that brings about a negative emotional state. Breaking the wall is tough, when it’s been built up be our past mindsets. Hmmm…..
December 2, 2008 at 4:50 pm
So I’m curious Nettle; as an experienced traveler or worker to what would you attribute your lack of contact with negative entities? In your opinion are there very few of them? Do they even exist? Do they avoid you or do you avoid them? You say that it’s been many years, did something change?
What do you think about people who are raised believing in the supernatural both good and bad aspects? (I’m mostly thinking of Christians here who, in my experience) believe in angels and saints, but also in demons, a literal Devil and possession.) Have you had experience with these types? If so, how have they reacted to the experiences you described?
December 2, 2008 at 8:19 pm
Maebius, I hadn’t thought of this in relation to your mirror thing, but that’s an interesting connection there.
Meme – those are terrific questions. The answer is longish:
I live in a city with a fairly high crime rate. Lots of murders, robberies, that sort of thing. I’ve lived here for over a decade and I’ve never been the victim of a violent crime (knock on wood) – I’ve never been mugged, never seen anyone shot in the street – I’ve never even had anyone be particularly bothersome to me in public. Does that mean I’ve never encountered a violent criminal? I wouldn’t know – maybe I walked past ten of them this morning.
I don’t know why I haven’t had that experience – I’m glad I haven’t, and hope things continue this way. Maybe I’ll run into the psychic version of a mugger next time I head to the Otherworld. I think it’s unlikely, just as I think it’s unlikely that I’ll be mugged on the way home tonight (though I think it’s a whole lot more likely to happen in real life.) It’s possible, but there’s no point in being fearful about it or refusing to leave the house just because there are bad people out there somewhere. I do not think that the Otherworld is utterly free from danger – it would be pretty dull, I think, if that were the case – but I don’t think it is any more inherently dangerous (probably much less so) than normal everyday life.
I also think “negative” can be part of perception. In the Otherworld (just as in this world, I think), fear draws those that feed off of fear. Fairies also have an odd sense of humor and have no problem at all with intimidating the intimidatable – some of them find it really funny. This isn’t particularly nice of them, but they aren’t really very nice beings. They don’t care about nice. It’s not in their nature. Sometimes they are kind, but not out of any inherent benevolence, but because they like you and enjoy your company.
Part of what changed for me was simply growing up and realizing that the beings that I had seen as threatening were basically just messing with me for the fun of it. Once you get that, they pretty much go away. If you feed them fear instead, they just get scarier – and since, as I said, people often tend to take internal fear as evidence of danger, someone can easily become convinced that there is danger present when really all that’s going on is a drama. It’s like getting scared of shadows on the wall.
I haven’t had much experience with the kind of Christians you’re talking about – they just haven’t entered my life very often and I’ve never had the opportunity to sit down and talk to one of them about this kind of thing. I think if you have a worldview that says that an entire category of entity is dangerous and evil, then you would have some terrifying experiences. This is just conjecture, though.
December 2, 2008 at 10:08 pm
Your example of the city made me think that also, just like big cities, a lot of the crime happens in a relatively few number of neighborhoods. I think that there are things you can do and places you can go that will tend to put you closer to those not-so-nice entities. You don’t go into bad neighborhoods alone at night, and so far as I know you don’t work in negative magicks either. I bet part of the reason you don’t meet the “thugs” of the otherworld is that you don’t spend time where they tend to hang out.
I agree with you to that otherworldly beings seem to have only the power over you that you give to them. It feels like some kind of universal law that lets us mortals get on with our lives without interference.
I found your comments about the reasons why people acquire the fear interesting. Are you aware of any evidence (perhaps from the author you mentioned) that people raised in cultures where otherworldly events and beings are openly acknowledged and believed in are less fearful of them? What about cultures who have a view of the otherworldly that contains no negative aspects or entities?
I know that among the Navajo people who I grew up with there is still a lot of fear of “black” magic. Older Navajos will often refuse to talk about it. Try to get an older Navajo to talk to you about Skinwalkers. They are one of the aforementioned groups who believe in the supernatural, but believe in the positive and negative beings and powers thereof.
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December 5, 2008 at 5:41 pm
This is a very interesting post. I hope to see you in a few weeks … can we talk about it in person? It would take me too long to explain what I’d like to say if I type it out here.
December 5, 2008 at 9:07 pm
Thanks Nettle so much for participating!
I’d really like to spend some time looking into all of the points you raised in your post and the comments.
Thanks again. And Blessings! (:
December 5, 2008 at 10:26 pm
Meme, I’m hesitant to talk about other cultures just because I know so little about them – I have ideas about the Shinto kami, for instance, but not being Japanese and having no knowledge of Shinto beyond my own personal reading, I’m not ready to make any interpretations there (at least not outside of my own head.) It’s hard enough to talk about my own experiences. It’s certainly an interesting subject and one I would explore more if I had the opportunity.
Anne, any time! I’m actually a lot more comfortable talking about this sort of thing than writing about it – I always feel like I haven’t really said what I tried to say.
Mahud, you are welcome and thank you for doing the synchroblog thing – it always makes for great reading.
December 13, 2008 at 8:28 pm
You have been nominated for the Happiness Tree Award